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	<title>Comments on: Kentucky Library &#8211; Protection or censorship?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newslanc.com/2009/11/11/kentuckylibraryprotectionorcensorship/comment-page-1/#comment-24757</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you step into a government institution, you have to be prepared for a complete separation from &quot;religion&quot; or more appropriately, God.  We can not expect anything moral from libraries or government schools.  There can be hope but nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you step into a government institution, you have to be prepared for a complete separation from &#8220;religion&#8221; or more appropriately, God.  We can not expect anything moral from libraries or government schools.  There can be hope but nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newslanc.com/2009/11/11/kentuckylibraryprotectionorcensorship/comment-page-1/#comment-21591</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Just to clarify, the book was placed on hold, not checked out in the library by the girl. Where it is shelved in the library had no bearing on the chain of events.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually that&#039;s partially incorrect. Yes, the book being placed on hold by the girl is what caused Cook and Boisvert to get fired, but the maelstrom started because Cook found the graphic novel shelved in its correct section directly beside the Young Adult section. This is when she began to check out the graphic novel herself to keep it in circulation without actually being seen. When she went to renew it is when she discovered the hold and used her employee credentials to look up the private information on the girl before making the decision, with Boisvert, to release the hold and continue to renew it indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just to clarify, the book was placed on hold, not checked out in the library by the girl. Where it is shelved in the library had no bearing on the chain of events.</i></p>
<p>Actually that&#8217;s partially incorrect. Yes, the book being placed on hold by the girl is what caused Cook and Boisvert to get fired, but the maelstrom started because Cook found the graphic novel shelved in its correct section directly beside the Young Adult section. This is when she began to check out the graphic novel herself to keep it in circulation without actually being seen. When she went to renew it is when she discovered the hold and used her employee credentials to look up the private information on the girl before making the decision, with Boisvert, to release the hold and continue to renew it indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newslanc.com/2009/11/11/kentuckylibraryprotectionorcensorship/comment-page-1/#comment-21588</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It appears that due to placement of graphic novels beside Young Adult fiction, one particular graphic novel has created a firestorm after an employee of the Jessamine County Library took it upon herself to censor a graphic novel.&lt;/em&gt;

Just to clarify, the book was placed on hold, not checked out in the library by the girl. Where it is shelved in the library had no bearing on the chain of events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It appears that due to placement of graphic novels beside Young Adult fiction, one particular graphic novel has created a firestorm after an employee of the Jessamine County Library took it upon herself to censor a graphic novel.</em></p>
<p>Just to clarify, the book was placed on hold, not checked out in the library by the girl. Where it is shelved in the library had no bearing on the chain of events.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newslanc.com/2009/11/11/kentuckylibraryprotectionorcensorship/comment-page-1/#comment-21578</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the Anon. Poster who quoted Elbert Hubbard. Government employees work for us, the people. And librarians are hired to run libraries, not to keep material out of patrons&#039; hands. It is little short of astonishing that anyone in such a position would believe they should act the role of censor-- let alone act upon such a notion. If true, then these should have been sacked, but the same would be true for any librarians anywhere in this nation.
 
This is not China, nor Iran, nor England or other such countries where the state takes its nanny-role to extremes.  Can an 11-year-old check out any book from the Fiction Section, or the Mystery Section? How about from what I call the bodice-ripper section? If so, then there is no justification for sequestering a graphic novel such as LXG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the Anon. Poster who quoted Elbert Hubbard. Government employees work for us, the people. And librarians are hired to run libraries, not to keep material out of patrons&#8217; hands. It is little short of astonishing that anyone in such a position would believe they should act the role of censor&#8211; let alone act upon such a notion. If true, then these should have been sacked, but the same would be true for any librarians anywhere in this nation.</p>
<p>This is not China, nor Iran, nor England or other such countries where the state takes its nanny-role to extremes.  Can an 11-year-old check out any book from the Fiction Section, or the Mystery Section? How about from what I call the bodice-ripper section? If so, then there is no justification for sequestering a graphic novel such as LXG.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newslanc.com/2009/11/11/kentuckylibraryprotectionorcensorship/comment-page-1/#comment-21549</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The library subscribes to an ethical standard. Government employees who behave unethically should not only be fired, they should be criminally prosecuted, if for no other reason, for taking wages while working against their employer.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Get Out, or Get in Line. You have got to do one or the other -- now make your choice. If you work for a man, in heaven&#039;s name work for him....  If you must vilify, condemn and eternally disparage, why, resign your position, and then when you are outside, damn to your heart&#039;s content. But I pray you, as long as you are a part of an institution, do not condemn it. Not that you will injure the institution -- not that -- but when you disparage a concern of which you are a part, you disparage yourself.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- Elbert Hubbard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The library subscribes to an ethical standard. Government employees who behave unethically should not only be fired, they should be criminally prosecuted, if for no other reason, for taking wages while working against their employer.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Get Out, or Get in Line. You have got to do one or the other &#8212; now make your choice. If you work for a man, in heaven&#8217;s name work for him&#8230;.  If you must vilify, condemn and eternally disparage, why, resign your position, and then when you are outside, damn to your heart&#8217;s content. But I pray you, as long as you are a part of an institution, do not condemn it. Not that you will injure the institution &#8212; not that &#8212; but when you disparage a concern of which you are a part, you disparage yourself.&#8221;</em> &#8212; Elbert Hubbard</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newslanc.com/2009/11/11/kentuckylibraryprotectionorcensorship/comment-page-1/#comment-21533</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of the intentions of the library workers involved, it was not their place to make that call. If they have such an issue with that kind of material being located so close to the Young Adult fiction, then petition to move that section elsewhere. Granted, that won&#039;t stop children from seeking the material out, but perhaps it will seem less offensive if the material wasn&#039;t so close at hand. An out of sight, out of mind sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the intentions of the library workers involved, it was not their place to make that call. If they have such an issue with that kind of material being located so close to the Young Adult fiction, then petition to move that section elsewhere. Granted, that won&#8217;t stop children from seeking the material out, but perhaps it will seem less offensive if the material wasn&#8217;t so close at hand. An out of sight, out of mind sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter is sixteen.

I think we are saying the same thing, but from different angles.  Should the material be rated?  Perhaps.  Not being familiar with this particular graphic novel, I can&#039;t make any comments on its content.

I believe that we as parents should be the ones to monitor what our children are involved in.  I do not want people with what appear to be, in this case especially, vastly different mores from what I hold, to make determinations for my child based on their personal viewpoints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter is sixteen.</p>
<p>I think we are saying the same thing, but from different angles.  Should the material be rated?  Perhaps.  Not being familiar with this particular graphic novel, I can&#8217;t make any comments on its content.</p>
<p>I believe that we as parents should be the ones to monitor what our children are involved in.  I do not want people with what appear to be, in this case especially, vastly different mores from what I hold, to make determinations for my child based on their personal viewpoints.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that adults and especially those entrusted with OTHER&#039;S children should always remember, that parents have the final say.

Are you saying that we shouldn&#039;t TRUST the library staff?  That, as a parent, I must be there to as - your words - as a checkpoint because the library staff can&#039;t be trusted with my children?

My wife and I routinely review what my children are BRINGING home from the library - I don&#039;t expect the library to have the same standards as I do! However, I don&#039;t expect the library to give my children unfettered access to everything that they would an adult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that adults and especially those entrusted with OTHER&#8217;S children should always remember, that parents have the final say.</p>
<p>Are you saying that we shouldn&#8217;t TRUST the library staff?  That, as a parent, I must be there to as &#8211; your words &#8211; as a checkpoint because the library staff can&#8217;t be trusted with my children?</p>
<p>My wife and I routinely review what my children are BRINGING home from the library &#8211; I don&#8217;t expect the library to have the same standards as I do! However, I don&#8217;t expect the library to give my children unfettered access to everything that they would an adult.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should the checkpoints for parents be in the system?  These checkpoints are in place in my own home, within my own family.

Some of us do not need a system to assist us in parenting our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should the checkpoints for parents be in the system?  These checkpoints are in place in my own home, within my own family.</p>
<p>Some of us do not need a system to assist us in parenting our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a parent, the actions of these librarians infuriates me.

If the graphic novel has a rating, then so be it.  However, if there is no rating involved, and if I allow my child to read such things, it is not for some strangers to decide whether or not I am correct in my views.

The village concept, which I believe I have seen quoted in such circumstances, is not a valid one.  It does not take a village to raise a child, it takes involved parents.

I am pleased that these women have been fired after violating their professional organization&#039;s code of ethics.  Bravo to those who made that decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a parent, the actions of these librarians infuriates me.</p>
<p>If the graphic novel has a rating, then so be it.  However, if there is no rating involved, and if I allow my child to read such things, it is not for some strangers to decide whether or not I am correct in my views.</p>
<p>The village concept, which I believe I have seen quoted in such circumstances, is not a valid one.  It does not take a village to raise a child, it takes involved parents.</p>
<p>I am pleased that these women have been fired after violating their professional organization&#8217;s code of ethics.  Bravo to those who made that decision.</p>
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